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06-11-2014, 08:58 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-11-2014, 10:01 PM by ET_Geckoe.)
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A sad day for Suzie
Cruising in to work this morning, she stalls no big deal, I'll start her right back up and be on my way...NEWP!!!!
she wouldn't effing fire, stuck on the side of the road and who stops to help? A harley rider. Nice guy too (probably helps he's also Navy)
Anywho...I thnk its the spark plugs...or the battery...or the charging system...
Went to look at the spark plugs...quick question
WHERE ARE THE GD SPARK PLUGS!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Ill find them...just didnt want to take the tank off...
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06-11-2014, 10:01 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-11-2014, 10:02 PM by ET_Geckoe.)
#2
RE: A sad day for Suzie
UPDATE: After sitting since 0730, I went out at 1730 and the little shit started right up...half a dozen times!!!!
She's on a tender now cause I know I drained the battery significantly trying to start her this morning...
time to start a shopping list
Also found the plugs...thank you KB
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06-11-2014, 10:47 PM,
#3
A sad day for Suzie
Man... Sorry to hear that... It really sucks
That exact thing happen to me once but never figured out what was the problem because it never happen again
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06-11-2014, 11:25 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-11-2014, 11:26 PM by OldePhart.)
#4
RE: A sad day for Suzie
Usually a sudden unexpected failure is almost anything but spark plugs...especially when an engine has more than one cylinder as both would have to get gunked up or what have you at the same time. Also, plugs go bad kinda gradually, usually - it's not going to be running great one day and not start the next (or the same day, for that matter).

Could be loose wiring or corrosion somewhere - probably somewhere between the 12V supply to the ignition coils and the +12V - at least that's where I'd start looking.

Could also be a fuel issue. Back in the 70's I had a couple of cages that would vapor lock (basically air bubbles in the fuel line). Let 'em sit for a half hour and they'd start right up.

I also had a cage once that wouldn't run more than a couple of miles on the highway, then it would die, back in the 90's. After a minute it would start right up again but a mile or two down the highway would die again. Turned out to be some really flaky crud in the fuel line right at the carb. It would pack in against the bronze filter until it choked off the fuel. Shut the engine off the fuel pump would stop and without flow and pressure the gunk would float away from the filter. Start it back up and get it pumping fuel good and the crud would pack against the filter again. That was one bizarre problem!
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06-11-2014, 11:58 PM,
#5
RE: A sad day for Suzie
@OldePhart no argument there, Im going with the battery, but since i have had her for something thousand miles and theres no way of knowing what P. Owner did, im changing the $2 plugs anyhow!
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06-12-2014, 08:51 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-12-2014, 08:53 AM by OldePhart.)
#6
RE: A sad day for Suzie
If it was turning over at anything like normal starter speed when you were trying to start it then your battery is fine (maybe a little flat from cranking her a lot but a long ride or the tender will fix that).

Before you spend money check for corrosion or loose wiring at the engine stop switch, sidestand switch, ignition switch, ignition fuse, and ignition coils (though with both cylinders dead my first money would be on the other switches).

I don't have a schematic for the 1100 but if the 1100 is similar to the 650 the sidestand switch is less likely than the engine stop switch because you were able to crank her and the engine stop switch affects only the ignition supply while the sidestand disables the starter and the ignition supply.

Don't I recall a thread where you changed bars on this bike? If so, double and triple check that the stop switch wiring is solid.

John
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06-12-2014, 09:01 AM,
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RE: A sad day for Suzie
(06-11-2014, 10:01 PM)ET_Geckoe Wrote: UPDATE: After sitting since 0730, I went out at 1730 and the little shit started right up...half a dozen times!!!!

time to start a shopping list
Also found the plugs...thank you KB
Lots of time to cool down too. Could be a thermal problem. Battery not likely problem. Plugs not likely problem. Wire rubbing or fuel starvation likely. I wouldn't start shopping yet unless you're looking at another bike. Shy
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06-12-2014, 11:30 AM,
#8
RE: A sad day for Suzie
while you have the tank up for the plugs, go ahead and replace the fuel filter since like said you do not know the history. its cheap just go to car parts and match it up, i found a purolator that matched up real good.
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06-12-2014, 09:33 PM,
#9
RE: A sad day for Suzie
had ZERO problems today, though I also never stalled her out either.
here's the rub...The "hard starting" has been going on for a could weeks now. I was thinking about it on the way in this morning. It seems like only one cylinder is firing and the other not. Im going to check the plugs tonight...tomorrow...maybe saturday?
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06-12-2014, 10:52 PM,
#10
RE: A sad day for Suzie
think i may have it figured...
checked battery, 13v
started, puff of black smoke
checked battery 13.7v gtg
let her run, killed her. Fired and was back to rolling normal. repeat, repeat, repeat. gtg
warmed up, racked the throttle water out the exhaust. means water in the fuel no?
also just realized i hav been having to use a different fuel station as my normal one is undergoing renovations. MAY be the issue
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06-12-2014, 11:16 PM,
#11
RE: A sad day for Suzie
Could be. You shouldn't be getting water out the exhaust after warmed up, and especially in So Cal. A little water in the exhaust isn't unusual when first started if humid and cool weather, but otherwise she should be clear.

John
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Locking Bags, Tail Rack, LED Signals & Aux Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator,
Brake Light Modulator, 5/8" Gel Pad Under Upholstery.
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06-12-2014, 11:21 PM,
#12
RE: A sad day for Suzie
indeed
'07 Double One Hundred Custom Black Cherry w/Ghost flames
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